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		<title>If Quotient $G/H$ is Abelian Group and $H &lt; K \triangleleft　G$, then $G/K$ is Abelian</title>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p>Let $H$ and $K$ be normal subgroups of a group $G$. Suppose that $H &#60; K$ and the quotient group $G/H$ is abelian. Then prove that $G/K$ is also an abelian group. &#160; Solution.&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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								<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Problem 341</h2>
<p>Let $H$ and $K$ be normal subgroups of a group $G$.<br />
Suppose that $H &lt; K$ and the quotient group $G/H$ is abelian.<br />
Then prove that $G/K$ is also an abelian group.</p>
<p>&nbsp;<br />
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<h2>Solution.</h2>
<p>We will give two proofs.</p>
<h2>Hint (The third isomorphism theorem)</h2>
<p>Recall the third isomorphism theorem of groups:<br />
Let $G$ be a group and let $H, K$ be normal subgroups of $G$ with $H &lt; K$.<br />
Then we have $G/K$ is a normal subgroup of $G/H$ and we have an isomorphism<br />
\[G/K \cong (G/H)/(G/K).\]
<h2>Proof 1 (Using third isomorphism theorem)</h2>
<p>Since $H, K$ are normal subgroups of $G$ and $H &lt; K$, the third isomorphism theorem yields that<br />
\[G/K \cong (G/H)/(G/K).\]
<p>Since the group $G/H$ is abelian by assumption, and in general <a href="//yutsumura.com/quotient-group-of-abelian-group-is-abelian/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">a quotient group of an abelian group is abelian</a>, it follows $(G/H)/(G/K)$ is an abelian group.</p>
<p>Hence by the above isomorphism, the group $G/K$ is also an abelian group.</p>
<h2>Proof 2 (Using the commutator subgroup)</h2>
<p>Here is another proof using the commutator subgroup $[G, G]$ of $G$.<br />
Recall that for a subgroup $N$ of $G$, the following two conditions are equivalent.</p>
<ol>
<li>The subgroup $N$ is normal and the $G/N$ is an abelian.</li>
<li>The commutator subgroup $[G, G]$ is a subgroup of $N$.</li>
</ol>
<p>For the proof of this fact, see the post &#8220;<a href="//yutsumura.com/commutator-subgroup-and-abelian-quotient-group/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Commutator subgroup and abelian quotient group</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>Now we prove the problem using this fact.<br />
Since $H$ is normal and the quotient $G/H$ is an abelian group, the commutator subgroup $[G, G]$ is a subgroup of $H$ by the fact (1 $\implies$ 2).</p>
<p>Then we have<br />
\begin{align*}<br />
[G, G] &lt; H &lt; K.<br />
\end{align*}<br />
Hence $[G, G]$ is a subgroup of $K$, hence $G/K$ is an abelian group by the fact again (2 $\implies$ 1).</p>
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		<title>Multiplicative Groups of Real Numbers and Complex Numbers are not Isomorphic</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2016 22:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[complex numbers]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[group isomorphism]]></category>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p>Let $\R^{\times}=\R\setminus \{0\}$ be the multiplicative group of real numbers. Let $\C^{\times}=\C\setminus \{0\}$ be the multiplicative group of complex numbers. Then show that $\R^{\times}$ and $\C^{\times}$ are not isomorphic as groups. &#160; Recall. Let&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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								<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2> Problem 130</h2>
<p>Let $\R^{\times}=\R\setminus \{0\}$ be the multiplicative group of real numbers.<br />
Let $\C^{\times}=\C\setminus \{0\}$ be the multiplicative group of complex numbers.<br />
Then show that $\R^{\times}$ and $\C^{\times}$ are not isomorphic as groups.</p>
<p>&nbsp;<br />
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<h2>Recall.</h2>
<p>Let $G$ and $K$ be groups.<br />
Recall that a map $f: G \to K$ is a group homomorphism if<br />
\[f(ab)=f(a)f(b)\]
for all $a, b \in G$.<br />
A group isomorphism is a bijective homomorphism.<br />
If there is a group isomorphism from $G$ to $K$, we say that $G$ and $K$ are isomorphic (as groups).<br />
&nbsp;<br />
We give two proofs.</p>
<h2> Proof 1. </h2>
<p>Seeking a contradiction, assume that there is a group isomorphism $\phi: \C^{\times} \to \R^{\times}$.<br />
Since $\phi$ is a group homomorphism, $\phi(1)=1$. Thus we have<br />
\[1=\phi(1)=\phi((-1)(-1))=\phi(-1)\phi(-1)=\phi(-1)^2.\]
Hence $\phi(-1)=\pm 1$. But since $\phi$ is injective and $\phi(1)=1$, we must have $\phi(-1)=-1$.</p>
<hr />
<p>Now we have<br />
\begin{align*}<br />
-1=\phi(-1)=\phi(i^2)=\phi(i)^2.<br />
\end{align*}</p>
<p>Since $\phi(i)\in \R^{\times}$, $\phi(i)^2$ must be a positive number. Thus we reached a contradiction.<br />
Hence there is no isomorphism between $\R^{\times}$ and $\C^{\times}$.</p>
<h2> Proof 2. </h2>
<p>Suppose that there is a group isomorphism $\phi: \C^{\times} \to \R^{\times}$.<br />
We want to find a contradiction.<br />
Let $\zeta=e^{2\pi i /3}$ be a primitive third root of unity.</p>
<p>Since $\zeta^3=1$ and $\phi$ is a group homomorphism, we have<br />
\begin{align*}<br />
1=\phi(1)=\phi(\zeta^3)=\phi(\zeta)^3.<br />
\end{align*}<br />
Since $\phi(\zeta)$ is a real number, this implies that $\phi(\zeta)=1$.</p>
<p>This is a contradiction since $\phi$ is injective, but we have $\phi(1)=1=\phi(\zeta)$.<br />
Therefore, there cannot be a group isomorphism between $\R^{\times}$ and $\C^{\times}$.</p>
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