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		<title>The Product of Distinct Sylow $p$-Subgroups Can Never be a Subgroup</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2017 22:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p>Let $G$ a finite group and let $H$ and $K$ be two distinct Sylow $p$-group, where $p$ is a prime number dividing the order $&#124;G&#124;$ of $G$. Prove that the product $HK$ can never&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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								<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2> Problem 544</h2>
<p> Let $G$ a finite group and let $H$ and $K$ be two distinct Sylow $p$-group, where $p$ is a prime number dividing the order $|G|$ of $G$.</p>
<p>    Prove that the product $HK$ can never be a subgroup of the group $G$.</p>
<p>&nbsp;<br />
<span id="more-4685"></span></p>
<h2>Hint.</h2>
<p>Use the following fact.</p>
<div style="padding: 16px; border: none 3px #4169e1; border-radius: 10px; background-color: #f0f8ff; margin-top: 30px; margin-bottom: 30px;">
If $H$ and $K$ are finite subgroups of a group $G$, then we have<br />
\[|HK|=\frac{|H| |K|}{|H \cap K|}.\]
</div>
<h2> Proof. </h2>
<p>    	Let $p^{\alpha}$ is the highest power of $p$ that divides $|G|$.<br />
    	That is, we have<br />
    	\[|G|=p^{\alpha}n,\]
    	where $p$ does not divide the integer $n$.</p>
<p>    	Then the orders of the Sylow $p$-subgroups $H, K$ are $p^{\alpha}$.</p>
<p>    	Since the intersection $H\cap K$ is a subgroup of $H$, the order of $H \cap K$ is $p^{\beta}$ for some integer $\beta \leq \alpha$ by Lagrange&#8217;s theorem.<br />
    	As $H$ and $K$ are distinct subgroups, we must have $\beta < \alpha$.
    	



<hr />
<p>    	Then the number of elements of the product $HK$ is<br />
    	\begin{align*}<br />
|HK|&#038;=\frac{|H| |K|}{|H \cap K|}\\[6pt]
&#038;=\frac{p^{\alpha} p^{\alpha}}{p^{\beta}}=p^{2\alpha-\beta}.<br />
\end{align*}<br />
Since $\beta < \alpha$, we have $2\alpha-\beta > \alpha$.</p>
<p>It follows that the product $HK$ cannot be a subgroup of $G$ since otherwise the order $|HK|=p^{2\alpha-\beta}$ divides $|G|$ by Lagrange&#8217;s theorem but $p^{\alpha}$ is the highest power of $p$ that divides $G$.</p>
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		<title>If Two Subsets $A, B$ of a Finite Group $G$ are Large Enough, then $G=AB$</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2017 01:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p>Let $G$ be a finite group and let $A, B$ be subsets of $G$ satisfying \[&#124;A&#124;+&#124;B&#124; > &#124;G&#124;.\] Here $&#124;X&#124;$ denotes the cardinality (the number of elements) of the set $X$. Then prove that&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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								<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2> Problem 493</h2>
<p>	Let $G$ be a finite group and let $A, B$ be subsets of $G$ satisfying<br />
	\[|A|+|B| > |G|.\]
	Here $|X|$ denotes the cardinality (the number of elements) of the set $X$.<br />
	Then prove that $G=AB$, where<br />
	\[AB=\{ab \mid a\in A, b\in B\}.\]
<p>&nbsp;<br />
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<h2> Proof. </h2>
<p>		Since $A, B$ are subsets of the group $G$, we have $AB\subset G$.<br />
		Thus, it remains to show that $G\subset AB$, that is any element $g\in G$ is of the form $ab$ for some $a\in A$ and $b\in B$.<br />
		This is equivalent to finding $a\in A$ and $b\in B$ such that $gb^{-1}=a$.</p>
<p>		Consider the subset<br />
		\[B^{-1}:=\{b^{-1} \mid b \in B\}.\]
		Since taking the inverse gives the bijective map $B \to B^{-1}$, $b \mapsto b^{-1}$, we have $|B|=|B^{-1}|$.</p>
<p>		Also consider the subset<br />
		\[gB^{-1}=\{gb^{-1} \mid b\in B\}.\]
		Note that multiplying by $g$ and by its inverse $g^{-1}$ give the bijective maps<br />
		\[B^{-1} \to gB^{-1}, b^{-1} \mapsto gb^{-1} \text{ and } gB^{-1} \to B^{-1}, gb^{-1} \mapsto b^{-1}.\]
		Hence we have<br />
		\[ |B|=|B^{-1}|=|gB^{-1}|.\]
<p>		Since $A$ and $gB^{-1}$ are both subsets in $G$ and we have by assumption that<br />
		\[|A|+|gB^{-1}|=|A|+|B| > |G|,\]
		the intersection $A\cap gB^{-1}$ cannot be empty.</p>
<p>		Therefore, there exists $a \in A\cap gB^{-1}$, and thus $a\in A$ and $a=gb^{-1}$ for some $b\in B$.<br />
		As a result we obtain $g=ab$.<br />
		It yields that $G\subset AB$, and we have $G=AB$ as a consequence.</p>
<h2> Related Question. </h2>
<p>As an application, or use the similar technique, try the following</p>
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<strong>Problem</strong>.<br />
Every element in a finite field $F$ is the sum of two squares in $F$.
</div>
<p>See the post&#8628;<br />
<a href="//yutsumura.com/each-element-in-a-finite-field-is-the-sum-of-two-squares/" target="_blank">Each Element in a Finite Field is the Sum of Two Squares</a><br />
for a proof of this problem.</p>
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		<title>The Product of a Subgroup and a Normal Subgroup is a Subgroup</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2017 18:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p>Let $G$ be a group. Let $H$ be a subgroup of $G$ and let $N$ be a normal subgroup of $G$. The product of $H$ and $N$ is defined to be the subset \[H\cdot&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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								<content:encoded><![CDATA[<br />
<h2> Problem 448</h2>
<p>	Let $G$ be a group. Let $H$ be a subgroup of $G$ and let $N$ be a normal subgroup of $G$.<br />
	The <strong>product</strong> of $H$ and $N$ is defined to be the subset<br />
	\[H\cdot N=\{hn\in G\mid h \in H, n\in N\}.\]
	Prove that the product $H\cdot N$ is a subgroup of $G$.</p>
<p>&nbsp;<br />
<span id="more-3062"></span><br />
&nbsp;<br />

<h2>Definition.</h2>
<p>A subgroup $N$ of a group $G$ is called a <strong>normal subgroup</strong> if for any $g\in G$ and $n\in N$, we have<br />
\[gng^{-1}\in N.\]
&nbsp;</p>
<h2> Proof. </h2>
<p>		We prove that the product $H\cdot N$ is closed under products and inverses.</p>
<p>		Let $h_1n_1$ and $h_2n_2$ be elements in $H\cdot N$, where $h_1, h_2\in H$ and $n_1, n_2\in N$.<br />
		Let $e$ be the identity element in $G$.<br />
		We have<br />
		\begin{align*}<br />
	(h_1n_1)(h_2n_2)&#038;=h_1en_1h_2n_2\\<br />
	&#038;=h_1(h_2h_2^{-1})n_1h_2n_2 &#038;&#038; \text{since $h_2h_2^{-1}=e$}\\<br />
	&#038;=(h_1h_2)(h_2^{-1}n_1h_2n_2). \tag{*}<br />
	\end{align*}<br />
	Since $H$ is a subgroup, the element $h_1h_2$ is in $H$.<br />
	Also, since $N$ is a normal subgroup, we have $h_2^{-1}n_1h_2$ is in $N$. Hence<br />
	\[h_2^{-1}n_1h_2n_2=(h_2^{-1}n_1h_2)n_2\in N.\]
	It follows from (*) that the product<br />
	\[(h_1n_1)(h_2n_2)=(h_1h_2)(h_2^{-1}n_1h_2n_2)\in H\cdot N.\]
	Therefore, the product $H\cdot N$ is closed under products.</p>
<p>	Next, let $hn$ be any element in $H\cdot N$, where $h\in H$ and $n\in N$.<br />
	Then we have<br />
	\begin{align*}<br />
	(hn)^{-1}&#038;=n^{-1}h^{-1}\\<br />
	&#038;=en^{-1}h^{-1}\\<br />
	&#038;=(h^{-1}h)n^{-1}h^{-1} &#038;&#038;\text{since $h^{-1}h=e$}\\<br />
	&#038;=h^{-1}(hn^{-1}h^{-1}).<br />
	\end{align*}<br />
	Since $N$ is a normal subgroup, we have $hn^{-1}h^{-1}\in N$, and hence<br />
	\[(hn)^{-1}=h^{-1}(hn^{-1}h^{-1})\in H\cdot N.\]
	Thus, the product $H\cdot N$ is closed under inverses.</p>
<p>	This completes the proof that the product $H\cdot N$ is a subgroup of $G$.</p>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p>Let $G, G&#8217;$ be groups and let $f:G \to G&#8217;$ be a group homomorphism. Put $N=\ker(f)$. Then show that we have \[f^{-1}(f(H))=HN.\] &#160; Proof. $(\subset)$ Take an arbitrary element $g\in f^{-1}(f(H))$. Then we have&#46;&#46;&#46;</p>
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								<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2> Problem 208</h2>
<p>Let $G, G&#8217;$ be groups and let $f:G \to G&#8217;$ be a group homomorphism.<br />
Put $N=\ker(f)$. Then show that we have<br />
\[f^{-1}(f(H))=HN.\]
<p>&nbsp;<br />
<span id="more-1502"></span></p>
<h2> Proof. </h2>
<p>	$(\subset)$ Take an arbitrary element $g\in f^{-1}(f(H))$. Then we have $f(g)\in f(H)$.<br />
	It follows that there exists $h\in H$ such that $f(g)=f(h)$.<br />
	Since $f$ is a group homomorphism, we obtain<br />
	\[f(h^{-1}g)=e&#8217;,\]
	where $e&#8217;$ is the identity element of the group $G&#8217;$.</p>
<p>	This implies that $h^{-1}g\in \ker(f)=N$, hence we have<br />
	\begin{align*}<br />
g\in hN\subset HN.<br />
\end{align*}<br />
Therefore we have $f^{-1}(f(H)) \subset HN$.</p>
<hr />
<p>$(\supset)$ On the other hand, let $g\in HN$ be an arbitrary element.<br />
Then we can write $g=hn$ with $h \in H$ and $n\in N$.<br />
We have<br />
\begin{align*}<br />
f(g)&#038;=f(hn)=f(h)f(n)\\<br />
&#038;=f(h)e&#8217;=f(h)\in f(H)<br />
\end{align*}<br />
since $f$ is a group homomorphism and $f(n)=e&#8217;$.<br />
Thus we have<br />
\[g\in f^{-1}(f(H))\]
and $f^{-1}(f(H)) \supset HN$.</p>
<hr />
<p>Therefore, putting the two continents together gives<br />
\[f^{-1}(f(H))=HN\]
as required.</p>
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