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		<title>Example of an Element in the Product of Ideals that Cannot be Written as the Product of Two Elements</title>
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								<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2> Problem 623</h2>
<p>	Let $I=(x, 2)$ and $J=(x, 3)$ be ideal in the ring $\Z[x]$.</p>
<p><strong>(a)</strong> Prove that $IJ=(x, 6)$.</p>
<p><strong>(b)</strong> Prove that the element $x\in IJ$ cannot be written as $x=f(x)g(x)$, where $f(x)\in I$ and $g(x)\in J$.</p>
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<h2>Hint.</h2>
<p>If $I=(a_1,\dots, a_m)$ and $J=(b_1, \dots, b_n)$ are ideals in a commutative ring, then we have<br />
\[IJ=(a_ib_j),\]
	where $1\leq i \leq m$ and $1\leq j \leq n$.</p>
<h2> Proof. </h2>
<h3>(a) Prove that $IJ=(x, 6)$.</h3>
<p>			Note that the product ideal $IJ$ is generated by the products of generators of $I$ and $J$, that is, $x^2, 2x, 3x, 6$. That is, $IJ=(x^2, 2x, 3x, 6)$.</p>
<p>			It follows that $IJ$ contains $x=3x-2x$ as well. As the first three generators can be generated by $x$, we deduce that $IJ=(x, 6)$.</p>
<h3>(b) Prove that the element $x\in IJ$ cannot be written as $x=f(x)g(x)$, where $f(x)\in I$ and $g(x)\in J$.</h3>
<p>Assume that $x=f(x)g(x)$ for some $f(x)\in I$ and $g(x) \in J$.<br />
			As $\Z[x]$ is a UFD, we have either<br />
			\[f(x)=\pm x, g(x)=\pm 1, \text{ or } f(x)=\pm 1, g(x)=\pm x.\]
<p>			In the former case, we have $1\in J$ and hence $J=\Z[x]$, which is a contradiction.<br />
			Similarly, in the latter case, we have $1\in I$ and hence $I=\Z[x]$, which is a contradiction.<br />
			Thus, in either case, we reached a contradiction. </p>
<p>			Hence, $x$ cannot be written as the product of elements in $I$ and $J$.</p>
<h2>Comment.</h2>
<p>Let $I$ and $J$ be an ideal of a commutative ring $R$.<br />
Then the product of ideals $I$ and $J$ is defined to be<br />
\[IJ:=\{\sum_{i=1}^k a_i b_i \mid a_i\in I, b_i\in J, k\in \N\}.\]
<p>The above problems shows that in general, there are elements in the product $IJ$ that cannot be expressed simply as $ab$ for $a\in I$ and $b\in J$.</p>
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		<title>Equivalent Conditions For a Prime Ideal in a Commutative Ring</title>
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								<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2> Problem 174</h2>
<p> Let $R$ be a commutative ring and let $P$ be an ideal of $R$. Prove that the following statements are equivalent:</p>
<p><strong>(a)</strong> The ideal $P$ is a prime ideal.</p>
<p><strong>(b)</strong> For any two ideals $I$ and $J$, if $IJ \subset P$ then we have either $I \subset P$ or $J \subset P$.</p>
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<h2> Proof. </h2>
<h3>(a) $\implies$ (b) </h3>
<p> Suppose that $P$ is a prime ideal. Let $I$ and $J$ be ideals such that $IJ \subset P$. Assume that<br />
	\[I \not \subset P \text{ and } J \not \subset P.\]
	Then there exist<br />
	\[a \in I \setminus P \text{ and } b\in J \setminus P.\]
<p>	Then the element $ab$ is in both $I$ and $J$ since $I, J$ are ideals. Then we have<br />
	\[ab \in IJ \subset P\]
	and this implies either $a \in P$ or $b\in P$ since $P$ is a prime ideal.</p>
<p>	However, this contradicts the choice of the elements $a, b$.<br />
	Therefore, we must have<br />
	\[I \subset P \text{ or } J \subset P.\]
<h3>(b) $\implies$ (a) </h3>
<p> Now we assume statement (b) is true.<br />
	Suppose that $ab \in P$, where $a, b \in R$.<br />
	Let $I=(a)$, $J=(b)$ be ideals generated by $a$ and $b$, respectively.</p>
<p>	Then we have<br />
	\[IJ=(ab)\subset P\]
	since $ab \in P$, and statement (b) implies that we have either $(a)=I\subset P $ or $(b)=J \subset P$.</p>
<p>	Hence we have either $a \in P$ or $b\in P$.<br />
	Thus $P$ is a prime ideal.</p>
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